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Бесконечная История

sagarah

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Sep. 28th, 2008

blueelctric

Re: All the Truth about 2012

Some more calculations for those interested:

I defined a "charming date" as a date made of only 3 digits (or less).
Like:
1.1.2000
1.2.2000
2.2.2000 (two digits)
and many more in 2000
Read more...Collapse )
The bottom line:
Nothing like this 2000-2012 charm since ever we can really remember, and nothing like we can predict in any sense of future, and with nothing even coming close, until 2100-2102.
For all reasons mentioned, our time is the perfect "time-dates-obsession-period".

Sep. 25th, 2008

blueelctric

All the Truth about 2012

We all heard about 2012.

So many Explanations and Stories.

I've heard stories about aliens, about astrology, about changing the rhythm of time, Heaven on Earth, energies, other dimensions, bad-stuff-happening, galactic-astrological-synchronizations, changes in calenders, parties, and so many contradicting, not-really-scientific, not-always-rational data.

I seek to explain the phenomenon, without stubborn rhetoric, without any vague concepts, and without any energy / aliens / dimensional / other-unproven-data (or at least considered unproven).

Having said that, I'll try to explain the 2012 phenomenon, or the phenomenon of 2012 obsession.

1.
My first argument:
Numbers effect people.

People are charmed, for example, by certain numbers, and are afraid, from other numbers, for a variety of reasons.
I don't claim everyone is charmed and afraid by numbers, but enough people do, so in the global-scale, number do effect people, not necessarily in the same manner.
(The number X can charm one person, deter another, and not effect another two people, in a group of 4, for example).
I find it easy to be charmed by
12.21.2012
or
13.0.0.0.0
And I am charmed by the fact they are both the same day.

But I would like to focus more on dates and numbers that make people fear.
Some dates frighten some of us:
9.11.2001
or
9.1.1939

Some numbers that might frighten a Christian:
666
13
Or Jews:
6,000,000


2.
My second argument:
The 9 - 11 combination is problematic enough in order to become a date of destruction.
(Sounds strange, but read it through).

I don't ask here to explain this, just to show this, but I'll try to give an explanation nonetheless.
One possible explanation, is the common characteristic of 9 and 11.
They are both very close to 10, and this is what is common, and so their combination emphasizes this.
10 is a very special number for the human psyche, and usually symbolizes wholeness and completeness and perfection, not for a mystical, or a numerological, or a really-stupid reason, but because we have 10 fingers, and they are the base of our counting system, and 10 symbolizes the completeness of the counting, the 10 fingers, and the 10 digits.
Those of us who look for grades will see a perfection in 10, since it is the perfect grade.
Those of us who look for completeness in sexuality, and in the merging of the opposites, will also see in 10 completeness, as 1 is the male organ, 0 is the female organ, and 10 is their combination in one complete whole perfect unity.
Those of us with religious upbringing can see 10 in the 10 commandments and other important symbols.
Symbolic connections between 9 and 11, are exactly what moves away from that wholeness, and emphasizes the distinction from wholeness.
You might think I'm only talking about the WTC 9/11 case, but you'll understand soon.

I don't think there has to be a cosmic force to make more destructions on dates with 9 and 11, but somehow this combination effects enough people for us to have more on such dates.
Maybe the explanation I gave for why this could happen doesn't convince, but this is not the point, the point is that it is like that, statistically, as we'll see in some detailed examples.
For simplicity, I'll use both the European style of writing dates - day.month.year - E - and the North-American style - month.day.year - U.

You might think that finding 9's and 11's in the 20th century is not so hard, but remember, the 20th century was the most bloody of them all, which strengthens my theory.

Do you see any combinations between 9 and 11 in the following dates ?
(remember the mind reads digits one by one...)

WTC destruction:
9.11.2001 U

Crystal night, first major violent breakout before the holocaust, became a memory of a day of destruction:
9.11.1938 E

WW2:
9.1.1939 U

Murder of Kennedy:
22.11.1963 E

Murder of Gandhi:
30.1.1938 E

Murder of Israel's prime minster, Rabin:
4.11.1995 E

Attempted murder of Jordanian King, King Hussein and the start of Black September:
9.1.1970 U

Gulf War:
1.15.1991 U
15.1.1991 E

And there's more, but I think the list is enough.

Anyone who disagrees, and thinks I'm not convincing enough, is welcome to present another pair of numbers, whose combination

appears in so many dates that became memories of destruction, and I think it is fair to request that at least one of the numbers in the pair will be a 2-digit-number.
(Don't tell me 1 and 9, OK ?)

I don't think, and I don't claim, that this is total.
You have many dates with 9 and 11 without any problem, and you also have destructions in other dates, but this is still a

statistical abnormality.

I'll soon show how the 9-11 combination became a destruction-date in more than the Western calender to prove my point.
Before that, I'd like to talk a little about the American emergency phone number
911

We usually think of it as
dial nine-one-one
But originally it was promoted as
dial nine-eleven.
A lot of people complained "they can't find the eleven" so they changed the way they say it.
So originally the 9-11 combination also appeared in emergency cases.
Police, Fire Department, Medical help, all in one number.
And when do you call ?
When you are more away from the feeling or delusion that everything is complete and perfect.
So once again, the 9-11 combination is connected in many persons' minds with "something bad is happening".

You can also see something interesting with Roman numerations.
9 - IX
11 - XI
Again showing that the human mind sees them as "one away from 10", while X is the most symmetric of all the Roman numerals (both top-bottom and right-left symmetries, and 90 degrees rotation symmetry if it's a "perfect" X.), and it's the only letter used (I,V,X,L,C,D,M) that you can't write in one time without lifting the pen or going over the same line twice, making it more "special" for the mind, two symmetrical lines meeting each other in the middle.

Now I'll move to another calender:
The Hebrew Year of Judaism. One of the oldest calenders still in use.
It goes both by the sun and by the moon, making itself more accurate than the Western calender, or the Muslim one, as far as "making the year accurate and on time" goes.

Unlike other calenders and traditions, the Jews somehow combined all their major destruction stories, to one date that symbolizes destruction
The Ninth of AV.
While AV is the 11th month of the Hebrew year.
(The Hebrew calender / calenders have several new-years, but the most common, and the only one used until today, is the one who starts the year with a holiday called "The head of the year", in which the digit of the years increases by one, and is in a month (always a new-moon day) who is always 2 months after AV, and basically 10 months before AV, making AV the 11th month, in a 12 months year, eventually making the 9th of AV, as the 9th of the 11th Month.)

This is a list of destructions that are associated with that date, some of them are made so by formal Jewish religious law,some are historically documented, some are of an unknown enough source, and even if some of it is made up (by others of course, not by me), it still shows that there's a tendency of the mind to connect destructions with 9-11-combination-dates:

The fall of the first temple.
(this in the bible appears in 2 places, one as 7th of AV, the other as 10th of AV, but formal Judaism is considering it as 9th of Av, and this is the official day of fasting and mourning about it, which is also obligatory, for religious Jews).

The fall of the second temple.

Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans

Expulsion of Jews from Spain
1942
(A major event in Jewish history, highly documented).

Roman Jews are put in ghettos in Rome.
1555

Expulsion from England and in another year, from France.

First World War
1914
(Calculated by the date Germany declared war on Russia, and it became a world war, WW1).

The Jews also believe that in the bible, the Hebrews traveled for 40 years in the desert, instead of going straight into their Promised Land, because they were punished by God for some sin, called "the sin of the spies", and that punishment is considered to have taken place on the Ninth of Av, as well as all the others.

So what do we see ?
Nowadays, the 9-11 combination has become a date that symbolizes destruction in more than one calender.

(There's more symmetry between the 9-11's of the Western and Hebrew calenders main destruction date - the fall of The Temple,and the fall of The Towers. Both in a mythological city - Jerusalem is the most mythological city for the Jewish people, and NYC is deeply connected to the American Dream, with its Statue of Liberty, welcoming the immigrants, as well as possessing other American-Dream-Symbols, and both destructions are on a 9-11 date in the year).

I can't be sure you're convinced why this is happening.
But it does.
Even if some of those destructions, or those dates, are pure accidents, it causes more fear of those dates eventually.
And again, I'm not saying all destructions are on those dates. I don't know the dates of the atomic bombing of Japan in the Japanese calender, but I believe there's enough data to see that something is going on.
And this finally concludes the second argument.

3.
My third argument:
Starting from 2012, we have much less dates with 9-11 combinations in the Western calender, (which is the most important and globally used calender).

In the 20th century, we had the most dates with such a combination.
In the beginning of the 21st, we have a little less.
Ever since 2012, the years don't give us any 11 at all, and we got a 9 in the years only once every 10 years, and in the 2090s which result in 19 years with a 9 in the year, in all the century, compared to 100 years with a 9, in the 20th century.

So:
I.
If a combination between a 9 and an 11 causes destruction, then we'll have less destructions.
II.
If such a combination makes people afraid, then we have less reasons to fear.
III.
If you think such dates don't mean anything at all, then it wouldn't get any worse, not because of this anyway.
IV.
If enough extreme people go crazy especially on such dates, then they have less reasons to go crazy.

4.
My fourth argument:
All the spiritual, cultural, pseudo-scientific interest around the change of 2012, is because of the 9-11 symbolism I showed.

Check out the date given to mark the change:
12.21.2012 U
21.12.2012 E

The year:
2012
Right after 2011, and shortly after 2009, just as they disappear from the digits of the years.
The Month:
December
The 12th month, right after the 11th month and shortly after September, just as they disappear from the digits of the months.
The day
21
Not one digit like a 9
Not 1X like an 11
not 20 like 9 + 11
The 21st day of the 12th month of the only year with a 12 in its digits, in the 21st Century.
So much charm, so much completeness, and wholeness, and symmetry, and even perfection. you got the 1 and 0 of the 10, next to each other. you got nothing to remind of the "away from completeness" in this date. Nothing to remind you of the 9-11 combinations.
no 9
12 and 21
right before 2013
and right before Christmas (never 9 or 11 on Christmas in the day.month duo)
or 13.0.0.0.0
you got 12, 13, and 21, all can be seen as "going away from 11".
This is truly a nice charming date which symbolizes a drastic change from a period we had many 9-11 combinations in the Western calender, to a period with much much less.

One of the things 2012 theorists talk about, is the subject of time, and the change of time, and the change of the perception of time.
They all fail to understand that what will really happen, is that as far as dates go, time will effect us differently.
This is the expected change in our "connection with time".
Time will be much less frightening and much less dangerous.

One last thing.
If somehow I gave you a reason to think the coming 2009 and 2011 will be horrible, this is not necessarily what I think. 1909 and 1911 were not so nice as years, but certainly not the worst of the 20th century. And even so, by 2012 it will be behind us.

I'd be more than happy to get interesting remarks, as long as they are to the point, about my theory.

(please don't analyze my signature in your replies)

BLUE ELECTRIC MONKEY BLUE ELECTRIC MONKEY

Feb. 7th, 2007

A Cult Classic for the End Times

indiriverflow

Blues4Kali- A Cult Classic for the End Times


What will Winter Solstice bring in 2012? ...an instant of Karma? ...an ethereal spiral dance of the collective soul? ... cosmic judgment leveled against civilization's expanse? ...destruction of the world as we know it? ...a chance for a new start? ...the rise and the revenge of the Goddess? or simply another day in the life of paranoia? These are the false prophesies that your pastor warned you about!
Reality Exchange Program
"Makes DMT seem like a whip-it."

Crazy Bear said there'd be days like this. As usual, no one believed him. Now, all I want to know is: where IS that lifeboat, and how DO I ditch this ship of fools, without any of these bliss ninnies noticing that I'm already gone?
Captain, my ass. We are equal in this sea of madness.
That iceberg is looking awfully big.

Amana Mission is on a quest to save the world, and the only problem is, she can't remember why she got involved with such an obvious scam in the first place. Jesus saves. Christ. What a loser.
Kali kills first, and recycles later.
Hitchhikers, load up for a ride to the Other Side. You may wish you had gone Greyhound.
"What the...?"
*A cranky band of prankster peace warriors who absolutely cannot resist messing with each other's minds, no matter the cost.
*Cocky alchemy-dabbling quantum surfers, navigating the Ethersphere with hand-held computers, switching timelines to find a better party vibe and swap tips about the best temporary toilets for use as interdimensional portals.
*A burnt-out visionary hippie millionaire on a mission from Gaia to build a better "communitopia" by underwriting a convoy carrying telepathic priestesses.
*A wheelchair-bound mindpilot propelling a crystal-powered Seed Bank toward the post-Apocalyptic Garden, with psychic precision...and a predilection for high-velocity extreme driving.
*Hermaphrodite time-jumper fleeing a fate worse than death.
*Anarchist ghettoes where anything goes-except escape.
*Ancient Principals vying like sweatsoaked carpetbaggers for our loyalty as the Final Vote is tallied.
*Long-haired security patrols collecting a cannabis tribute tax from all pilgrims to the Valley of Fun.
*And an underground meat mafia bringing a black magic revival to a bloodless dreamworld gone bland.
All brought together by a secret psychedelic superdrug that tunes users in to reality through the eyes of another archetypal avatar inhabiting a different state of space and time. Mahayana made easy. Budding Buddha natures are running amuck on a virtual superhighway where all roads lead to the Bo tree and singularity.
Twenty-first century Tantra is about more than sex, drugs, and rock and roll.Confronting the Karma of every wasted breath is only the first step.
Welcome to the End Times. Kali awaits. She already knows who you are.
Do you?
The 21st century counterculture is even weirder than it appears on the surface. This is not your mommy’s MTV Road Rules.
Ride along on this mesmerizing, metaphor-packed bus trip toward ecstasy and enlightenment, as three real-time guides-Amana, Sissy, and Deva, let you in on what they learned when they asked what It was really all about, after all.
Become them for a multilevel metafictional tour of infinity and awaken yourself to the miracle-a-minute magic of mighty Mother Kali!

Read Online Novel Blues 4 Kali at www.blues4kali.com
2012 Prophecies

Dec. 4th, 2006


classical_slut

(no subject)

What am I doing to prepare? Nothing special, really. It's going to happen. I'm just going to go with the flow and let whatever powers may be take me at will.

I've never been a spiritual person but these final days are changing me in ways I thought impossible. I'm currently in Toledo visiting my father's brother and his family. I'm going to try and see everyone before it happens. For the sake of closure. When I was younger my greatest fear was of not being able to say my last words to those I care about, and now that it's come to this, I'm not letting that happen if I can help it.
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skizzimit

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Dec. 4th, 2012

Gongjin

kefiv

(no subject)

It drives me nuts how resigned you people are to this whole nonsense - as though it weren't perfectly obvious what form the "end of the world" is going to take, and that we have the problem well in hand. Taipei was an isolated incident, and a special case; we are not facing a nuclear war because frankly we've got missile defense and the Chinese don't. I don't care how rabidly the Premier froths about "Han determination". I can't give specifics of course, but let's just say that if he launches, we'll shoot down everything he sends at us and tell him to bring more, if he's got it.

Oh, on a side note - the feeds are no more reliable than the damned cable news was. Stop accepting the drivel they're trying to spoonfeed you through your ears and pick up a bloody newspaper. This will all blow over in a few weeks.

Dec. 3rd, 2012

steviesmith99

well i guess

hmmm...i guess that sounds pretty possible. i mean, they do say in the earfeeds that they're info is never wrong between like every other 'cast. its just so hard to deal with you know?? its like what was the purpose of even living if were about to all die anyway? ive been good and i really want to get into heaven, so i guess ill go talk to a priest or bishop or something and see about what i can do to help as the end comes near. maybe ill start reading abible? im sure it wont hurt!!!

and thanx for the grammer lesson! ;-p
icognito grover

skizzimit

(no subject)

steviesmith99,

When have the feeds been wrong before? They are NEVER wrong. What you hear is the unavoidable, incontrovertible truth, whether you like it or not. This is a reality that you will have to deal with. What are you to do? The only way for you to avoid the end you fear is to put your unyielding trust in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and accept HIM as your savior. That thing in Chichen'Itza is not just some astrological debris, it is an obvious sign from GOD in HEAVEN, sent to forewarn of the coming apocalypse! The end is soon upon us, and GOD's true saved children will ascend to HEAVEN when the end cometh. Will you be among us, ready for eternal life at the side of our FATHER, or will you be left behind to suffer the bitter cold of HIS absence and eventual hellfire?


And for the sake of our HEAVENLY FATHER, it's "they're," not "their."

steviesmith99

stop and think about it

listen, that rock isn't an indication of anything. things have been falling from space since before we were, and they will long after we leave. am i the only person not freaking out over this? i mean, i dont want to die or anything, but its just not going to happen *just* because everyone says it is, you know? we all get the feeds, so i know what their saying sounds terrible, and we cant avoid that, but WHAT IF their wrong?? their not supposed to be wrong ever...i dont know. i cant accept it, and i dont want to die. what am i going to do?

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